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刚从Waterloo's Rental Licensing Bylaw听证会回来，确实是普通住宅房最多只能租3个人，只要用于出租都必须申请License, 房东分租也最多的租给3个人，而且要License，去的基本都是房东们，反对声很大，估计会做一些调整，但不会太大.洗牌要开始了。 (水城百事)

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 21:48

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你的出租房要

by 悲剧了？, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 21:50 @ aeiou

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今天房东抱怨的是出租房的价值普遍会下跌30%，曾经看到一个烂的平房，改造成一个8个房间的（4个楼上，4个地下室），如果只能租3个人，估计要跌掉一半，彻底杯具了

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 21:59 @ 悲剧了？

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没把合法手续申请到，就擅自乱动

by 学一课, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:06 @ aeiou

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那是合法的有License的。现在房东抱怨那些房子没人接手，卖出去了。

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:08 @ 学一课

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你是说有license也只能租三人？哇惨啦，认识一人刚买了那样的房屋

by 赶快去通报, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:00 @ aeiou

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是啊.如果你原来是5个人License, 政府给以一段时间申请成3个人License

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:03 @ 赶快去通报

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我认识的这人前几周还说买了个好价

by 真不幸时间不对, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:04 @ aeiou

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人生都有起伏，不可能每次都踩对脚步。对地产经纪的生意也会影响喽，没办法的时候只能接受了

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:06 @ 真不幸时间不对

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前途是光明的道路是曲折的！

by 没事, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:15 @ aeiou

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这位被经纪蒙了，直到风声后就马上脱手。我的经纪就很好，告诉我现在暂时看一看，有新法规要出来。

by 有个诚实有能力的经纪真好, Friday, January 14, 2011, 09:36 @ 真不幸时间不对

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也不一定，有的经济不太了解，我也是这个星期才知道的，哈哈。

by aeiou ⌂, Friday, January 14, 2011, 10:03 @ 有个诚实有能力的经纪真好

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this Monday I just received the formal notice!

by you are right, Friday, January 14, 2011, 11:20 @ aeiou

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按报告上说,现在房主的license还是有效的.可以出租超过3个人以上.直到sold.下一任房主只能申请3人以下的.

by 报告P.16, Friday, January 14, 2011, 11:41 @ aeiou

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有报告的链接吗，想看看

by aeiou ⌂, Friday, January 14, 2011, 11:47 @ 报告P.16

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http://www.city.waterloo.on.ca/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=2227

by here, Friday, January 14, 2011, 14:28 @ aeiou

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收到，谢谢！

by aeiou ⌂, Friday, January 14, 2011, 16:20 @ here

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a phase-in period will be provided to lessen any potential impact on the rental market and in recognition that these individuals have previously been licensed under a separate licensing program.

by How long is the phase-in period, Friday, January 14, 2011, 17:08 @ 报告P.16

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only extended to June 2011

by that means only 3 months, Friday, January 14, 2011, 17:19 @ How long is the phase-in period

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而且毫不避讳说会创造高密度公寓的开发机会

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 21:50 @ aeiou

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变散养为圈养，高效节能

by wolf, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 21:58 @ aeiou

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就是这个意思。政府不太愿意出租房向居民区发展，其实普通居民是受惠的，谁也不愿意与出租房为邻。

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:01 @ wolf

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以前市政府不也是这样规定的吗？跟以前有什么不同

by ？, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:09 @ aeiou

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以前房东分租，出租给家庭，出租人数<=3都不需要license,现在只要是出租就需要license,而且不的超过3个人，以前有很多license 的房子出租给4个，5个甚至7，8个。

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:13 @ ？

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能这样理解吗？以前房东可以分租给不超过三人，什么手续都不需要，但以后，哪怕是分租给一个租客都需要申请license，而且总数不能超过三人？

by 是这样的吗？, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:49 @ aeiou

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Yes, you are right, 三人指大人，小孩不算。

by xxxx, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:51 @ 是这样的吗？

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"小孩不算"？ 我不太清楚

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:58 @ xxxx

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好像没有年龄的限制？

by 你肯定？, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:59 @ xxxx

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怎么才能拿到License?

by 谢谢, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:20 @ aeiou

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现在政府规定得很严，厨房，厅什么的大小都有很严的规定。其实政府就是不让私人出租了。

by xxxx, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:31 @ 谢谢

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有这么点意思

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:33 @ xxxx

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谢谢分享。政府翻手为云，覆手为雨的，如果要这么做早该放出风声。我有个朋友去年才 买的一个房出租，估计也会受影响。

by xxxx, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:28 @ aeiou

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这事不能愿政府！为了图利把房子改得像马蜂窝一样

by 应该有一定的限制, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:35 @ xxxx

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那投资个condo or apartment 出租给别人是不是不需要license?

by sherrydelta, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:43 @ aeiou

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我觉得应该不用。政府主要管的是出租给学生的低层房。

by xxxx, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:50 @ sherrydelta

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Condo 和 Apartment 出租不需要License

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:58 @ xxxx

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那把小平房都改成三层以上的apartment

by 能否申请改变, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:02 @ aeiou

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关键看你所在地的zoning,如果是Multiple resendtial 的zoning 你就可以，否则不行

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:04 @ 能否申请改变

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干脆，几个房东集资买能改造烂房，改成小apartment

by 出租, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:17 @ aeiou

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好消息！左右邻居都在出租，很是影响那些真正的single family

by 对出租的还应该加收高额的费用, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 22:58 @ aeiou

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不过也不要悲观，出租给家庭的Class A和房东分租的Class B的这种License应该不是很难，限制最大应该是学生房Class D还有家庭旅馆的Class C.

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:01 @ aeiou

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license 是要费用的

by 这些都会打到租客身上, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:06 @ aeiou

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你说的没错，今天有人提出这个问题。Class A, B的费用不会很高

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:08 @ 这些都会打到租客身上

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看来买来租给家庭还是有希望的

by 那就只买好校区的新房做这事儿了, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:09 @ aeiou

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license的申请费多不多？多伦多那边，如果是有license的出租房，水电等的费用都跟普通住家不一样

by 原来的房东说的, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:08 @ 这些都会打到租客身上

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还不知道费用情况。这边水电气的价格和普通居民房没有区别。

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:10 @ 原来的房东说的

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保险业贵很多

by !, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:18 @ 原来的房东说的

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据说出租的话水电费要按Business rate来收跟民房不一样。

by xxxx, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:30 @ 原来的房东说的

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太专业。换个老百姓的说法好不好

by 谢谢科普, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:06 @ aeiou

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谁能详细解释一下，我有点口吃了 :-)

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:09 @ 谢谢科普

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口干去喝水

by 口吃该咋办, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:14 @ aeiou

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只能让别人来说。我要去跑步了，大家明天见，晚安！

by aeiou ⌂, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:17 @ 口吃该咋办

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我觉得凡是出租都肯定难了，不管class A or class B。 因为三人的上限规定还有 就是厨房，厅大小等等限制，使得出租房几乎无利润。

by xxxx, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:28 @ aeiou

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问题是谁来监管？你的房子出租给几个人住，你不说，谁知道呢？除非是租客住的很不愉快，去投诉，不然谁管你租给几个人住呢？还有被抓到的话，是怎么个惩罚力度呢？

by 800, Thursday, January 13, 2011, 23:38 @ xxxx

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其实很多是隔壁邻居回报的

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是这样，但是在传统出租区，基本你的邻居也是出租房，就不会有互相举报的问题。

by aeiou ⌂, Friday, January 14, 2011, 10:03 @ 人家也有道理

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你错了。政府的规定是一条街上只能有一定数量的出租房有license（因为垃圾，绿化等等原因），其他不能出租的邻居

by 都盯着呢。, Friday, January 14, 2011, 10:48 @ aeiou

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任何一个出租客（包括以前的出租客），邻居（老外邻居很好事）都可以举报。

by 罚金很高的。, Friday, January 14, 2011, 10:46 @ 人家也有道理

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Risk还是很高的，家庭出租的风险要小些

by aeiou ⌂, Friday, January 14, 2011, 11:49 @ 罚金很高的。

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看报道说，警察对收到公寓内卖淫的举报，都无法（也许是很难）入室核实，不知道这waterloo市政府有什么特殊能耐去一一核实房屋出去状况？这个所谓的bylaw，基本是涉嫌垄断，反对竞争，制造更多（黑市）房屋出租纠纷，打击本地房产市场，使得学校附近人口密度更大，小公寓安全隐患日益会严重，小公寓附近交通更糟糕，犯罪率也会上升。。。。。。

by 不知其它城市是否也有类似的BYLAW, Friday, January 14, 2011, 12:56 @ 人家也有道理

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没有，全国第一家，据说原来的bylaw就已经是全国最严厉的

by 了, Friday, January 14, 2011, 13:07 @ 不知其它城市是否也有类似的BYLAW

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他们就是想学校附近建公寓，因为地太少，缓解人口增长带来的民居压力

by aeiou ⌂, Friday, January 14, 2011, 13:12 @ 不知其它城市是否也有类似的BYLAW

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这才是冒天下之大不韪，下次不选他们了

by aeiou ⌂, Friday, January 14, 2011, 13:23 @ 不知其它城市是否也有类似的BYLAW

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下次不选他们了。

by 说得对, Friday, January 14, 2011, 17:37 @ aeiou

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各位如有后续消息请续贴

by Cychina, Monday, January 24, 2011, 15:59 @ aeiou

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没有唉

by aeiou ⌂, Monday, January 24, 2011, 16:05 @ Cychina

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土著也发飙

by Cychina, Monday, January 24, 2011, 17:59 @ aeiou

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