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以色列军舰公然向国际人道主义船队开火 19死36伤(图) (水城百事)

by 转贴, Monday, May 31, 2010, 11:47

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这也太猖狂了吧

by 还不是美国撑腰, Monday, May 31, 2010, 12:41 @ 转贴

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有点过了

by aeiou ⌂, Monday, May 31, 2010, 12:47 @ 转贴

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以色列总理正在加拿大访问, 怎么没见哈勃抗议

by 88, Monday, May 31, 2010, 14:13 @ 转贴

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因为没有以色列人去告洋状,往自己人脸上抹黑。

by 这好理解, Monday, May 31, 2010, 14:31 @ 88

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为了以色列的利益搞死两个加拿大人,harper同志一般没意见,上次打黎巴嫩时就是这样的

by 你就不要指望了, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 08:47 @ 88

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以军事前并不知道此船上是否有违禁物品,登船检查的目的并不是去挖出违禁物品,而是一种战时状态的例行公事。没想到在船上遭到铁棍、椅子的疯狂袭击,步枪被抢,以军士兵用随身的手枪还击。我承认以军做得有些过分,但责任并不完全在以色列一边

by 不一样的看法, Tuesday, June 01, 2010, 15:53 @ 转贴

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国际法规定他们可以随意查船了?就是一仗势欺人的王八蛋,故意找两个人上去挨打,和当年日本鬼子说自己士兵在中国失踪挑起战争的原理是一样的,还有上次美国鬼子上银河号,也就是中国人面了,收敛了一下,不然就是世界大战。这世界就是恃强凌弱的时代。

by 828, Tuesday, June 01, 2010, 16:26 @ 不一样的看法

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以色列已经反复宣布那艘船上的“人道物资”可以经以色列港口卸货后,以色列将负责把这批物资通过路陆运输到加沙。但是那船根本不听,强行闯关加沙

by 是这样, Tuesday, June 01, 2010, 16:30 @ 828

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封锁加沙就是无理的事情了,只有这些真正的愤青,或者Harper之流才会为以色列叫好,这么搞其实以色列人也不可能得到安宁的,就像上次以色列打巴勒斯坦,打死几百平米,自己也死掉上百人,这儿的以色列人动不动同学或者以前的好朋友就被打死了也是常事,我们外面的人看看热闹也挺好,顺道找找茬,谴责一下也是很好玩的

by 不能都让美国鬼子找茬,随意谴责其他国家什么的, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 06:06 @ 是这样

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某些人的逻辑:凡是以色列干的就是对的,耶路撒冷在圣经里面就说了是以色列的,以色列人一直是受害者

by wolf, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 06:12 @ 不一样的看法

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中国罕见的进行了谴责

by aeiou ⌂, Tuesday, June 01, 2010, 18:34 @ 转贴

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中国就知道跟美国作对。可能是符合双方利益吧,暗地里握手,明里打。

by 888, Tuesday, June 01, 2010, 18:47 @ aeiou

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作对是必须的,这样才能转移愤青的注意力

by 如花, Tuesday, June 01, 2010, 20:44 @ 888

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n effective four-year bar on travel outside a territory which since classical times has served as a crossroads between Asia and Africa. For now, and despite the international condemnation, that land, air and naval blockade remains in place.

by Gaza 's siege is illegal, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 06:49 @ 如花

A deadly raid

May 31st 2010, 18:52 by The Economist online | GAZA and JERUSALEM

ISRAEL is trying to fend off a wave of international condemnation following its raid before dawn on Monday May 31st on a flotilla trying to break the siege of Gaza. Some nine campaigners—the figure is still uncertain—aboard a Turkish steamer were shot dead when Israeli commandos descending from helicopters boarded the ship in international waters. Dozens more were wounded. Five smaller craft were boarded and commandeered without violence. All six vessels were taken to the Israeli port of Ashdod where those on board were to be arrested pending their deportation.

After months of seeking to draw international attention Gaza’s way, the attack helped Hamas catapult the siege on Gaza to the top of international bulletins and western policy assessments. Hamas leaders pointed out that though Europe and America may claim to be opposed to the boycott, this is undermined by their strong backing for the Palestinian Authority’s rival leadership in the West Bank and the continued isolation of Hamas and its Gaza rule.

Turkey, with hundreds of its nationals on board the boats, quickly announced the recall of its ambassador in Tel Aviv. Israeli officials were straining to persuade the Turkish government not to sever diplomatic relations entirely. Relations between the two countries, for long close allies, have worsened sharply over recent months.

In Ramallah, Palestinian Authority officials highlighted what they said were a series of recent security bunglings and called on Israel to consider political options before military ones in its handling of the Israeli-Arab conflict. These ranged, they said, from its slipshod military performance in the 2006 Lebanon war, the fallout from its assault on Gaza between December 2008 and January 2009 and the subsequent Goldstone inquiry into alleged war crimes, to the more recent outcry over the alleged involvement of its spy agency, Mossad, in the assassination of a Hamas operative in Dubai in January this year.

Ban Ki-moon, secretary-general of the UN, called for “a full investigation to determine exactly how this bloodshed took place. I believe Israel must urgently provide a full explanation.” European countries—many of the 800-odd campaigners are European nationals—also issued stern public reprimands. President Nicolas Sarkozy of France condemned Israel’s disproportionate use of force.

The initial reaction from Washington was more cautious. A spokesman at the White House said America was “working to understand the circumstances surrounding this tragedy.” Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu had been scheduled to meet President Obama in Washington on Tuesday June 1st but cancelled the visit and flew home from Canada to take control of the welling diplomatic crisis.

In brief comments from Ottawa, Mr Netanyahu gave his full backing to the commandos. This was the position taken by other ministers, too, and articulated with increasing forcefulness as the day wore on and evidence from the night’s events became available. Israeli spokesmen spoke of an “ambush” laid by the campaigners on the ship, who, they said, had purported to come in peace with humanitarian aid for Gaza but in fact, according to Israel, had been spoiling for a fight and had effectively provoked the bloodshed. Israel claims that they were a Muslim Brotherhood vanguard which had carefully rehearsed scenarios for an armed attack on their convoy. Video clips taken from the helicopter showed the individual commandos set upon by men with iron bars and wooden poles as they landed on deck. Several of the soldiers were hurt badly, two of them shot apparently from pistols grabbed from them, and one stabbed.

Hamas leaders called for its followers to demonstrate in Gaza, and the Palestinian Authority followed suit in Ramallah, apparently to defuse any outpouring of sympathy for Hamas. But dogged by continuing division, both authorities discouraged their political rivals from joining their protests, diminishing the turnout: protests in Turkey and elsewhere in the Muslim world equalled or exceeded their number.

Beneath Israel’s outward façade of support for the troops, questions are already being asked. On the Israeli left, the Gaza siege has long been seen both as impolitic and morally indefensible. But even among mainstream politicians who defend the siege and the commandos’ mission, criticism is being voiced over why they were not sent aboard in far larger numbers, equipped with non-lethal means for confronting angry protesters and taking over the vessels without loss of life.

Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas’s head of government in Gaza, heralded “a turning point in the battle to end the siege of Gaza”, and fellow Hamas leaders looked to the attack to quicken the erosion of a siege whose intensity Israel and Egypt had already been struggling to retain. Undermined by a labyrinth of tunnels, the supply of goods into Gaza had increased due to Israel relaxing its ban on the entry of raw materials vital for the 60 40-kilometre strip’s reconstruction, as well as medical aid. Indeed, Israel says it had repeatedly offered to transfer the flotilla's cargo once it docked in the Israeli port of Ashdod.

But in addition to facilitating the supply of goods into Gaza, the ships had aimed to breach an effective four-year bar on travel outside a territory which since classical times has served as a crossroads between Asia and Africa. For now, and despite the international condemnation, that land, air and naval blockade remains in place. But Turkish diplomats, among others, are asking whether Israel could respond in a similar manner were a second flotilla to set sail for Gaza’s shores.

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以色列的生存环境很恶劣,被一群阿拉伯国家包围着,而这些国家一直想他给灭了,稍有不慎就会完蛋。

by G, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 07:31 @ 转贴

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他们本身就是侵略者,非法掠夺了巴勒斯坦人的土地,然后在土地上干了不少种族清洗的事情,现在还成了受害者了?

by 去读一读Finkelstein的书, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 08:18 @ G

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以色列国2000年前就在那里,整个耶路撒冷都是以色列的。

by 读一下圣经就知道了, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 08:44 @ 去读一读Finkelstein的书

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圣经也算史实?那么人类是靠乱伦延续下来的啦?再说即使2000年前以色列人在那里,也不等于说巴勒斯坦是以色列的,要是这么论,这个地球可没法瓜分了,蒙古是不是应该说匈牙利也是蒙古的?

by 狗屁逻辑!, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 09:58 @ 读一下圣经就知道了

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如果你仔细读过圣经的话,就会发现即使是2000年前,那个地方的人也不全是以色列人。

by 读者, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 11:19 @ 读一下圣经就知道了

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那是确实是以色列国,我没有其他意思

by 我只是说一个事实, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 11:38 @ 读者

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圣经,事实?

by 不要侮辱我们的智商好不好?, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 11:40 @ 我只是说一个事实

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2000年前是哪年?罗马很长一段时间是那儿的统治者吧,包括你们的领路人从出生到死的时候那儿都是罗马帝国,不是以色列国

by 史实, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 11:46 @ 我只是说一个事实

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看来地中海一圈都应该归意大利才对。不过这样埃及很没有面子,要不把地中海南面归埃及?

by wolf, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 12:01 @ 史实

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I cannot believe somebody is stupid enough to use Bible to defend Israel.

by Bible??, Thursday, June 03, 2010, 17:41 @ 读一下圣经就知道了

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那愤青们的藏南,台湾就不要了吧

by 这样, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 12:46 @ 转贴

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这个不一样,藏南,台湾中国从来没有承认过

by aeiou ⌂, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 12:51 @ 这样

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都是实力决定的,现在台湾不在手里,但是暂时鬼子又不敢独立,等等看谁的实力增长快吧,现在看来还是大陆实力增长快

by 要有信心, Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 12:59 @ 这样

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等实力强了,把蒙古,海参崴也拿回来。

by 咋没听谁提这连个地方, Thursday, June 03, 2010, 12:38 @ 要有信心

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要有信心,俄国人口正在减少,只要活到俄国人口减少到控制不了西伯利亚的时候,如果中国生育率不降低,这些就都是中国的了

by 明白吗, Thursday, June 03, 2010, 15:38 @ 咋没听谁提这连个地方

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如果北美华人都搬到BC,然后就独立,再并到中国就好了

by Rew, Thursday, June 03, 2010, 20:44 @ 明白吗

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可能性还是有的,加拿大是联邦制,原则上如果公投通过就可以独立

by 88, Friday, June 04, 2010, 14:03 @ Rew

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不行。这条路被歪嘴总理堵死了

by 现在魁北克公投过了都没门了, Friday, June 04, 2010, 14:09 @ 88

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怎么说?

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發生在加沙外海的衝突:船隊和真相

by 也是转贴, Saturday, June 05, 2010, 22:52 @ 转贴

發生在加沙外海的衝突:船隊和真相
珊朵拉 泰普林斯奇

"'已有的事,後必再有;已行的事,後必再行。日光之下,並無新事。'(傳道書1:9) 用這段聖經的真理來描述以色列和她的敵人是再恰當不過了,過去如此,今天也一樣。撒但是如何操縱世界級的欺騙的武器來攻擊猶太人的呢? 謊言之父就是撒謊的。"

以上這段話摘自我2004年所寫的《為什麼要關懷以色列?》一書。這本書中有一節專門描述和記錄了撒旦如何使用其一貫的欺騙武器對付猶太人和以色列。從古埃及的法老王時代到王后以斯帖的日子, 到以斯拉和尼希米重建耶路撒冷, 經過中世紀, 宗教改革, 納粹大屠殺, 直到今日, 謊言之父一直在撒謊。

令人傷心的是,5月31日我們一醒來就聽到新聞說,當天凌晨,以色列海軍部隊登上試圖非法“突破以色列對迦薩的封鎖”的一個船隊時,遭到武裝攻擊,他們被迫反擊。

船隊的目的
本文不是要重復那些已經傳遍世界的捏造的故事,而是根據以色列的報導來描述今天在加薩外海的衝突。請記住,我們尚未掌握所有事實。但有一點是確定的:這個船隊不是為了人道或和平而來。其證據是(1)主張消滅以色列的左翼極端分子、回教聖戰分子和恐怖分子在船上,向以色列領海航進。(2)船上裝滿了給加薩人民的人道救援物資,但也裝滿了武器。(3)以色列海軍多次警告叫船隊回頭,並且提出和平地卸載和發配所有船上的人道主義救援物資。如果他們的目的真的是要減輕迦薩的苦難,這些"和平的積進分子"就應該會遵照這一簡單的程序。(事實上,即使是以色列公民要從美國把個人物品運回以色列,我們也要遵守相同的程序。)(4)正如從錄影上看到的,船上的乘客向以色列海軍開火。(5)以色列已經允許每天成吨的救援物資進入加沙。可悲的是,這些物資經常被哈馬斯主宰的加沙政府偷竊,而這种偷竊產生了由極少數人構成的富有階層。媒体并未報道在迦萨普遍的臟亂中, 存在繁榮的生意,包括高檔餐廳,大型百貨商場,奢侈的豪宅和奧運會規模的游泳池。(耶路撒冷郵報,2010年5月27日,19頁)

船队的主要目的是要上演一场媒体事件,來抹黑以色列因此以色列置身於進退兩難之地,這種處境是任何一個其他國家都不能被迫容忍接受的。一方面,如果以色列允許船隊進入加沙,我們國家的主權和安全會被恐怖份子侵犯---他們不是簡單的和平抗議者。另一方面,我們事先就預料到,攔阻貕仄|導致國際媒體不可避免地、錯誤地抨擊以色列,帶來政治領域的嚴重後果。在沖突還未發生的幾天前,以色列的時事評論員就已經把這一事件描述為一場"雙輸的局面。"

人道主義危機
這隻船隊是在大赦國際最近公佈的年度報告之后組織的,土耳其部分地參與了組織這個船隊。該報告譴責以色列對迦薩的封鎖導致了人道主義危機。(長久以來,大赦國際一直不公平地針對和攻擊以色列。)以色列政府回應,大赦國際的這份報告是虛假的,沒有可信的證據,是基於道聼途説的見證。(耶路撒冷郵報,2010年5月27日,第19頁)。隨后,以色列政府發表了以下聲明:

"在過去的18個月,超過一百萬噸的人道主義救援物資從以色列進入迦薩,等於迦薩地帶平均每一個男人、婦女和兒童有將近一噸的救援物資巴勒斯坦人則20多次利用醫療方面的安排來執行恐怖襲擊。"


以色列政府的報告還談到運往迦薩的建築材料、學校用品、水電基礎設施等許多方面。報告指出,隻有一些特定的建材被禁運,因為這些材料被用來制造武器,在塞德洛特市或者附近地 區實施恐怖襲擊。 (www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/)

以色列外交部上周在他們的網站上解釋了為什麼要封鎖迦薩地帶:"以色列對迦薩實行海運封鎖,是因為以色列與控制迦薩的哈馬斯政權正處在武裝衝突階段。以色列外交部的海運船務和人道主義法律專家Sarah Weiss Maudi 認為:"哈馬斯已經多次轟炸以色列的平民目標,他們利用各種渠道,包括海運,走私武器進入迦薩...按照國際法,海運封鎖是一個合法和被公認的措施,在海上武裝衝突中可以實行...美國和英國的海軍手冊把海運封鎖視為武裝沖突中可以採取的有效的海軍措施。"事實上,埃及也同意並且參與了迦薩的封鎖。 (www.mfa.gov.il/MFA)

希伯來大學國際法專家Robbie Sabel博士解釋了以色列國防軍在國際海域的行動的合法性。在沖突時期,一個國家可以實施禁運,盡管它不能在第三國的領海實施禁運,它可以在國際海域這樣做。在這一原則下,扣押企圖突破封鎖的民用船隻是合法的;而且,如果在扣押過程中該船隻發動武裝攻擊,實施扣押的那一方有充分的權利自衛反擊。Sabel繼而指出在國際海域實施禁運封鎖的歷史由來已久。(獨立媒體評論和分析,www.imra.org.il, 2010年5月31日)

船上所發生的事件
據今天的耶路撒冷郵報的報導,基於直接來自於以色列國防軍的大量信息,今天臨晨爆發的暴力是因為當"以色列國防軍士兵登上船隊,企圖阻止他們突破以色列實施的海上封鎖時,船隊上正在前往迦薩地帶的激進主義分子朝以色列士兵們開火。...國際激進主義分子為星期一大約臨晨2點登船的以色列國防軍士兵'預備了一場私刑'。以色列國防軍士兵幾個小時前就警告他們或離開,或尾隨他們前往阿什杜德港口。[點擊此處查看當時的錄像中的警告和這一事件的其它實況。]....在隨後的衝突中至少有10名激進分子喪生,以及6名海軍突擊隊員受傷,其中一些受了槍傷,至少一人頭部嚴重受傷。...以色列士兵剛上船就遭到船上人員的激烈對抗,他們手持刀、棍棒和金屬管。士兵們使用非致命的措施驅散人群。激進分子成功地從一名以色列國防軍士兵身上奪得了武器並開火, 導致暴力升級。一名以色列國防軍的軍官說,"這是精心策劃的私刑。這些人決不是什麼和平活動人士 。"

"以色列國防軍表示要把這隻船隊帶到阿什杜德港口,儘管發生了暴力事件,他們運載的貨物在那裡會經過檢查,然後經陸運轉運到加沙地區。”(www.jpost.com, 2010 年 5 月 31) 事實上,在寫這篇文章時,這隻船隊正在去阿什杜德港口的途中。

根據以國防軍的網站今日較早時的報導,"[以色列海軍]部隊在行動中遵照上級的命令,並且採取了所有必要的措施來避免暴力,,但無濟於事。...雙方所有受傷者,包括以色列人和外國人,目前被直升機送到以色列的醫院"。

以色列副外長丹尼·沙龍說,以色列對遇難者深表遺憾,並盡了一切努力避免這種結局。 他形容這隻船隊是\"有預謀的及忍無可忍的挑舋," 並稱它為一隻" 仇恨的艦隊"。

巴勒斯坦政府主席阿巴斯、國際領袖們、以及國際社會迅速地譴責了以色列的行動,指控我們進行了一場大屠殺和恐怖活動。巴勒斯坦人今天在以色列各地舉行抗議鬧事。世人何時才會聽到真相?

請禱告
請加入我們特別為這一局勢禱告。請為以色列海軍、警察和政府官員得到神的保護和智慧禱告。為捲入這個事件中所有的有關人員和受傷者求救恩。禱告真相大白。願即使象這樣的悲劇性衝突也能被用以成就神的國度的旨意。


“你們要為耶路撒冷求平安。。。”詩 122:6

請看下面連結的重要錄影,準確顯示船上暴力是如何開始的:

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=2323

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo&feature=player_embedded

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